Making Disciples Can Be Messy
“Preaching to a crowd is safe, but mentoring someone is costly and messy and can hurt your heart” Pete Charpentier
Could this be why our default position of ministry today is planning and paying for big events and hoping that maybe, just maybe people will get in a relationship? One on one discipling can be less than “cost-effective” when it comes to todays score card for ministry success (which is how many? how much? how often?).
My heart is hurting a bit this morning because some I’ve invested in have recently made destructive choices, some are experiencing hardship, some are seeds falling by the road or among thorns. I think I understand in a small way what Paul said to the Galatians who were pursuing a false gospel: “I am again in the anguish of childbirth until Christ is formed in you!” 4:19. This morning, I am also full of joy because others are making progress and growing and tracking with God’s will. I am also humbled to think about those who mentored and discipled me with patience and love and shaped me into what I am today.
I believe one of the greatest questions for leaders is: “Who are you currently mentoring?”
Recently, Pete Charpentier, Pastor at Woodland Park Baptist Church in Hammond, challenged one of our monthly Pastors conferences with the need for one-on-one mentoring in ministry. He gave me permission to share his insights which have stuck with me the past few weeks. Here they are:
Utilizing Social Networking for Ministry
— This was originally presented at a Conference for Ministry Assistants. Download the PDF version here —-
The Gospel of Jesus Christ is big news. It’s a message to be declared, proclaimed, announced, and distributed to as many people as we can as often as we can. God’s work among His people is also news and a story that needs to be told. The tools that churches have relied upon to announce their message and distribute their stories are the pulpit, newsletters, letters and post cards, phone trees, scrolling power point announcements, and email. As a Pastor, my church utilized each of these tools and still I heard regularly from people in my church – “I didn’t know anything about that.” Communication is definitely one of our biggest challenges. Also challenging is the fact that a generation is here that is abandoning paper and phone lines for wireless messaging and social networking. It’s time for the church to take communication to another level and engage the world in the fastest growing means of messaging that we have today and utilize the world of Social Media.
Why?
So you’re not a computer geek, you don’t enjoy video games, you hate hype and fads. These are some of the reasons given for not engaging in the popular social networking domains. Here are four reasons why you should put all excuses away and just do it:
1) It’s where the people are. In February, Facebook announced that it now has 400 million users and some estimates show that growing by as much as 35,000 a day! There are 3.5 billion pieces of content uploaded to Facebook each week. Facebook now supports 65 languages. Twitter boasts 75 million users and growing. Currently there are 50 million tweets everyday, about 600 tweets per second. These interfaces are growing and people are using them more and more each day. If we’ve got a message that we want to get out to as many people as possible it seems that we’d want to get it where the people are and social media seems to be that place.
2) Message saturation is possible. Recently I asked a group of Church Secretaries and Administrative Assistants if the teenagers in their church are reading the church’s publications. 100% expressed uncertainty. We recognize that a hard copy newsletter does not reach all of our audience. Utilizing social media will allow you to get the exact same information to them in a way that does attract their attention. It is possible to saturate your message throughout the different age-grades and audiences in your church today like never before.
3) It’s Free. The most compelling reason for utilizing the fastest growing communication tools today is the cost. It’s completely free! At every level of social networking, free is an option that gets you out to where millions of people are interacting every second of everyday.
4) You Might Have Fun. Why has Facebook grown so fast? It’s enjoyable. People like having info at their fingertips in real time. They like talking about themselves and connecting with people. They will enjoy connecting with your church and discovering what it’s all about as well. And it’s ok to have fun while we proclaim His message and tell our story.
TOOLS OF THE TRADE
With so many different social networking sites popping up, here are three types that can definitely help ministries communicate their message in this new age. I’m sharing personal discoveries and what I’ve learned over the last few years as I’ve waded into these waters, so I’m certain my knowledge is far from exhaustive, but here goes:
Good Friday Quotes
“We can cut ourselves, or throw our children in the sacred river, or give a million dollars to the United Way, or serve in a soup kitchen on Thanksgiving, or perform a hundred forms of penance and self-injury, and the result will be the same: the stain remains…The only answer in these modern times, as in all other times, is the blood of Christ.” – JOHN PIPER
“The concept of substitution lies at the heart of both sin and salvation. For the essence of sin is man substituting himself for God, while the essence of salvation is God substituting himself for man.” – JOHN STOTT
“When Satan attacks you, command him in the Name of Jesus to bend his neck. On the back of it you’ll find there’s a nail scarred foot print!” – E. STANLEY JONES
“Jesus paid it all, all to Him I owe, sin had left a crimson stain, He washed it white as snow.” – ELVINA HALL
“Apart from the cross, condemnation is normal. Without Jesus, we all deserve to be condemned and punished for sin. But here’s the good news: ‘There is therefore now no condemnation for those who are in Christ Jesus’ (Romans 8:1).” – C.J. MAHANEY
“The debt was so great, that while man alone owed it, only God could pay it.” – ANSELM
“…He made you alive with Him and forgave us all our trespasses. He erased the certificate of debt, with its obligations, that was against us and opposed to us, and has taken it out of the way by nailing it to the cross. He disarmed the rulers and authorities and disgraced them publicly; He triumphed over them by Him.” – Colossians 2:13-15 (Holman Christian Standard Bible)
Boldness vs. Blessing
Where did the early church get their boldness? They actually asked for it, instead of protection, provision, and blessing (Acts 4:29). Even in the face of threats and public humiliation. Our prayers reveal what we believe about God and our hearts priorities. Praying for protection and provision in the face of danger makes sense, unless God has commanded you to be witnesses and promised to be with you every step of the way (Matthew 28:19-20). Praying for protection and provision makes sense if your believe that God’s goal for your life is happiness, safety, and peace instead of holiness and fruitfulness (1 Thess. 4:3-8, John 15:16). I thank God for his protection and provision in my life, but I hope I have the kind of faith that seeks boldness and courage when its threatened.
Through the Eyes of a Three Year Old
Hudson, our three year old has discovered our camera and the camera feature on my IPhone (which he can work better than I). He’s compiled quite a portfolio that’s a lot of fun to scan. These pictures have hit me pretty hard. I’m reminded that his little eyes are on me and he is learning by what he see in me everyday. Seeing myself in his pictures has given me a different perspective and has me asking some questions as a Dad:
- Does he see my eyes enough?
- Am I too often looking at the phone, computer, TV?
- What do my habits communicate to him?
- Does he see me loving his Mom enough?
- How can I shape my little man be my actions?
Saint Patrick – Slave, Shepherd, Priest, Apostolic Church Planter, Movement Maker
My family name was most likely originally Curlee or O’Curlee, until changed to Corley many generations back. The Curlee name found its way from western Scotland and Ireland to New Orleans, and other parts of America, in the 1630’s, and then in droves after the potato blights of the 1800’s. From there, I’m guessing, a few caught on with saw mill companies and made it to beautiful Central Louisiana and settled as Corley’s. On my family’s land in Grant Parish, you can actually still make out the rows in the woods from when it was all one big potato farm. Being a “history buff,” this knowledge about my family name planted in me an interest in Saint Patrick. Here’s some interesting info I found out about:
- Patrick actually isn’t a Saint, as he was never officially canonized by the Roman Catholic Church, but he is celebrated with a feast day and widely venerated by the church.
- Also, he was not Irish, but an Englishman from Roman Britain. Patrick was born in AD 390, to a middle class Christian family. Though his grandfather was a pastor and both parents devoutly religious, Patrick says that “he knew not the true God” as a rebellious teenager.
- At age 16, pirates raided his home town and carried him away to Ireland. He was sold as a slave to an Irish warlord and forced to become a shepherd.
At this point in history, Ireland was radically pagan and extremely violent. The Roman Catholic Church had given up on converting the territories and even discouraged people from traveling there. Maps of the day would label areas such as Ireland with the words “MONSTERS LIVE HERE.” In a lot of ways the people were monsters. They were illiterate, except for the language of war and bloodshed. They had no cities and little organizational infrastructure. There were around 150 clans who were constantly at war with one another. They valued getting drunk, fighting, sexual perversion, and torture. Their enemies were terrified of them because of their obscene ways of fighting. They called their battle formation the warp-spasm. Basically, they painted themselves, got drunk, stripped naked, and rushed screaming at their opponents like they were demon-possessed (they very well may have been). Even Roman Soldiers, who had conquered the world and were known for their brutality, were shocked and frightened by the Irish. The Irish religion was paganism and mysticism, led by druids and pagan priestesses who performed human sacrifices, sex rituals, claimed to be able to control the elements, and preyed on the fears of the people.
This is the world that Patrick found himself in. As a shepherd he endured total isolation in the rain and snow, never having shelter, much food, or descent clothing. It was during this time that Patrick turned to prayer and the God he knew little about. After six years, God spoke to Patrick and told him to escape because a ship was waiting on him. He walked 200 miles without being caught, found a ship and miraculously made it home, just as God told him he would.
Upon returning home Patrick enrolled in seminary and was eventually commissioned as a Priest by the Roman Catholic Church. When he was in his 40’s, God spoke to him again and commanded him to return to Ireland to preach the gospel and plant churches for the pagans that had enslaved him years before. So, Patrick sold all he had and sailed back to Ireland ready to give his life for the sake of the Gospel.
In Ireland, Patrick began using methods completely unique to his time and that would bring much opposition from the Roman Catholic Church.
- Like modern church planters and missionaries, Patrick sought to use his knowledge of the people and Irish culture to gain open doors to communicate the Gospel.
- He used things such as the three leaf clover to teach doctrine and adopted their styles of music and art in compelling people to put their faith in Jesus Christ.
- If enough new converts were present in a village he would lead them to build a simple church that did not resemble Roman architecture and then hand over the church to pastors that he had trained so that he could then move on and repeat the process.
Patrick allowed the Gospel, not Roman civilization, to change Ireland. Thomas Cahill, in his book How the Irish Saved Civilization, says it like this, “Patrick’s gift to the Irish was his Christianity – the first de-Romanized Christianity in human history…a Christianity that completely inculturated itself into the Irish scene.” A Christian, not Roman-Irish, culture formed and as these “transformed warrior children of Patrick’s heart lay down their swords of battle, flung away the knives of sacrifice, and cast aside the chains of slavery, they very much remained Irishmen and Irishwomen.”
In the span of 30 years, Patrick saw between 30 and 40 of the 150 tribal clans become Christian. He trained over 1,000 pastors, planted 700 churches, and God used him to bring the peace of Christ to one of the most violent territories in the world.
What lessons can we learn from Saint Patrick?
1) Our goal for people – In Patrick’s day, winning people to Christ meant winning people to Roman culture. It seems Patrick was content to allow the Gospel to transform Irish culture instead of forcing Roman culture upon them with the Gospel thrown in. As a church we must always remember that our goal is not to make people like us, but through the Gospel, like Christ.
2) Fearless, sacrificial faith – Patrick sold all his possessions and gave his life to people who had once enslaved him and who would think nothing of doing a quick “warp-spasm” on him and take his life. He was wholeheartedly surrendered to the task of seeing the Irish people come to Christ. It was that kind of faith that the Irish needed to see. Cahill says “his refusal to be afraid of them…his steadfast loyalty and supernatural generosity” spoke volumes to the Irish people. Today, our culture needs to see people that are fearlessly and sacrificially committed to Christ in that way. Does that describe your faith? If so, get ready to be used of God to do amazing things.
Faith-In-Action Needed
“The light that shines the farthest, shines brightest at home” – this is one of my all time favorite missions quotes from J. Oswald Sanders. It reminds me of the inherent hypocrisy of saying how mission minded we are while driving past deep needs of people groups in our community. For our church, regular Faith In Action weekends where we get intentional about ministry to the neediest and sharing the good news has opened my eyes to this truth even more. Without neglecting the needs of the world, we must take time to look around us. Here are a few of our upcoming Faith in Action Projects:
Nestled in the heart of Madisonville, LA, one of the wealthiest areas on the Northshore, is this family that has no running water and open holes in the floor. Next week we’ll spend time cleaning up this property, pressure washing, painting, addressing quality of life issues, and being a blessing to the family however we can.
Near to this address is the household of a disabled/handicap (due to polio) single parent with three kids. That’s right. There are no steps on the porch and the head of household is disabled. We will be taking time to bless this family through cleaning the property, pressure washing the house, etc.
The dishwasher of an elderly, widowed trailer park resident burst and leaked all over the floor. Long-term results are open holes in the floor and water damaged cabinets. We hope to repair, replace, and be a blessing to this household next week.
Tammany Hills Baptist Church has been in decline for years. Our Association of churches has worked with them on a track torevitalization and she is coming to life! Next week we’ll be helping with a door to door campaign to invite 2,000 neighborhood residents to church and let them know that we are praying for them. We’ll also tackle some handyman projects around the church.
“This is all social work stuff. What about sharing the Gospel?” We’ll be touching each household around these homes as we bring change to the physical structures. Through servanthood and being the good news, we can expect opportunity to share the Good news. Excited about the possibilities of shining bright in this world and very bright close to home.
Warning! Do Not Let This Person Join Your Church!
Do whatever you have to do to keep this person away from your church! He will do more to keep your church inward focused and ineffective than almost anything. Because of this person, needs are going unmet in our community today. He has provided excuses, caused conflicts, and often raises unfounded questions and criticisms. He will also keep other people in church from serving God, using their spiritual gifts, from worshiping through giving, and growing in their walk with Christ. He or she may even cost your church more money as you have to hire more staff to fix what this person has done to the hearts and minds of people in the congregation.
Let me give you this persons name: SOMEBODY ELSE.
As a ministry leader, I heard often about the exploits of SOMEBODY ELSE, but it was always false and there efforts always resulted in less ministry being accomplished.
- “I thought SOMEBODY ELSE would do it.”
- “Why didn’t SOMEBODY ELSE think of that.”
- “I can’t, but certainly SOMEBODY ELSE will be able to be there.”
- “We don’t have to go, SOMEBODY ELSE can do my part.”
Pastor, do yourself a favor, at the next Business Meeting lead your people to vote Somebody Else out of the church. And remind the church regularly that SOMEBODY ELSE is gone FOREVER. So, SOMEBODY ELSE = NOBODY = less of what God wants to do through the body of Christ in your community.
“Too Many Hypocrites at the Ballpark, I’m Not Going”
Probably will never hear that one. This is an accusation generally only aimed toward the church. Here are a few of the best comebacks I’ve heard when someone says, “I don’t go to church, because there are too many hypocrites.”
- From my 91 year old grandmother from Grant Parish, “There’ll only be one more if you show up.”
- From Mike Miller, pastor of FBC Kenner, “What a great place for hypocrites to go, right?”
- From a church sign I saw once, “This Church is not FULL of hypocrites. We have room for a few more. Join us Sunday.”
- From another friend, “There are hypocrites at Wal-Mart, but that doesn’t keep you from going there.”
- The harshest, “I’d rather go to church with hypocrites than go to hell with them.” Ouch!
I like my grandmother’s answer myself, because it’s true. We all tend to demonstrate hypocrisy at times in our lives. It comes with being a part of the human race. Sin divides our heart, giving us a desires to please others or be pleased by things instead of pleasing and finding pleasure in God. Until we are rescued from this cycle by the power of Christ we will be powerless to take off the mask.
Here’s a few different levels of Hypocrisy. Where are you and how can you change?
1. Intentional Dishonesty. At it’s root hypocrisy is living a lie. Whether it’s being a two faced cheater or hiding what’s really on the inside or in the past just so people will like you, deceit drives hypocrisy. But some seem to do hypocrisy on purpose. Often it appears that way, because they’re caught in a way of life that causes them even to believe the lies.
2. Best Intentions. Most of us are not intentional hypocrites, but we just don’t live how we intended to live. Researchers call this the Halo Effect. We often give ourselves credit for what we intended to do, even if we didn’t do it. Example – Every year around 60% of people tell pollsters that they voted, but the actual voting roles usually show that around 40% actually do. The other 20% intended to, and gave themselves credit. Church attenders do this often. As a pastor I occasionally meet people who say they attend my church when they never have. What they mean is, they feel a connection with our style or location, and if they ever do go to church they intend on going there, so they give themselves credit. Is that not hypocritical?
Best intention hypocrites live with a gap between what we say we believe and even what we want and how we actually live day to day. Do you find yourself saying things like this?
- “I know what I should be doing, BUT…”
- “I know what the Bible says, BUT…”
- “I know what God wants me to do, BUT…”
You’re revealing the gap between what you know to be right and where you’re actually living at the moment. Thus you are a HYPOCRITE.
3. Fear of Man / People Pleasing. Then there is the people pleaser. The chameleon. The person that lives their lives one way in front of one group and another in front of the next group. He/she is double-minded and thus unstable. This was Peter’s story as told by Paul in Galatians 2:14. Peter found freedom from the law in Christ, began partaking with the gentiles of food traditionally considered unclean for the Jews. However, when Jewish leaders who believed that you had to accept Jesus AND keep the law showed up he did as they would have wanted. Why? Because he was afraid of what they might think of him (Galatians 2:12).
4. Bondage. However you define it and whatever it looks like, the truth is, the hypocrite is in bondage. Afraid someone may find out who you really are or who you’re really not, frustrated with why you just can’t live by your best intentions, tired of hiding. Hypocrisy enslaves.
My hypocrisy will keep others in bondage as well. The often quoted words of Ghandi in reference to Christianity are so pertinent: “If Christians lived by the teaching of Christ, all of India would be Christian.” Another friend of mine said it like this, “If it weren’t for Christians, there’d be more of us.”
Psalm 86:11 is a prayer I pray often, “Teach me your way, O Lord, that I may walk in your truth; UNITE MY HEART to fear Your name.” I don’t want to have a divided heart, living one way in front of certain people and another way later.

I don’t want to always be saying what I believe but failing to live up to it. To overcome my hypocrisy, I need a power outside of myself. The gospel of Jesus Christ brings real change and can turn my many faces into one.
So asked yourself:
- If I really lived like I say I believe, how would my life be different?
- If I closed the gap between what I know and say and what I actually do, how would my life and the lives of others change?
- If I were to really get honest about my life, can I say that I am free from what others think of me? from personal preference? from prejudice?
Next week at Bridge Church we’ll turn to another vice that tends to enslave when we discuss being Set Free from Legalism.
Worth Reading: A Few Links
A few posts that caught my attention last week:
- Loved this list by Joe McKeever – How to Spot a Sick Church.
- Ed Stetzer’s Outreach Magazine article on Church Birth Control is worth reading.
- Love reading Seth Godin’s blog daily – appreciated his post on Work and “Trying Different instead of Harder“
- Critical issues in North American Church Planting by JD Payne. No big surprises, but worth noting. Loved that he adds “turfish churches” as a critical issue. Most are afraid to say it.
- Using Facebook for the Gospel by Bryan McAnally.










